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We are an atheist band. We Like to spread our positive message of reason and rational thinking to the world. We want all religious belief to be a thing of the past as well as separation of church and state in the US.

Please join us in the resistance against religious influence on schools and government.

* Stop higher taxes because churches don't pay them.

* Stop theists interfering with progress and violating people's freedom and basic human rights. 

* Stop creationism taught as a science.

* Place god with other imaginary creatures such as the Tooth Fairy, unicorns and Santa Claus.

Religious (mythology) belief is an insult to human intelligence and poisonous to mankind.

With all the evidence out there that confirms their imaginary god is a product of man's imagination, they still choose to believe in it without a shred of evidence, suspending rational judgment.

"Atheism is not an opinion but a Conclusion based on the available Evidence".....by Damien L. Thorr
 
With all the evidence out there that confirms their imaginary god is a product of man's imagination, they still choose to believe in it without a shred of evidence, suspending rational judgment.

There is zero evidence that jesus existed. His story is plagiarized from many others like him, fictional deities, who share many similar and even identical parallels. He is nothing more than just jewish mythology masquerading as reality. That fact that many believe it is true does not make it so.

Remember when studying history in school and we learned that once upon a time the entire world believed the world was flat and those who said it was round were ridiculed? It's the same thing. Just because many believe deities are not imaginary does not make them any more real than Superman, Darth Vader or Yoda.
 
 I have heard many christians argue that the bible is true and real because it mentions real places from the period but that does not, in any way, certify any truth to it. Many other works of fiction mention real places. As an example: The Harry Potter books mention numerous places in England that are, in fact, real but does that mean that there is a secret wizarding world? Of course, not! In King Kong, the book describes the giant ape in New York City, even scaling up the Empire State Building. This is a real city and a real landmark building within the city... but was there ever a King Kong? Of course, not!
 
The bible is the claim and not the evidence. Ask yourself who wrote the scriptures (bible, q'ran, torah, talmud, etc....) and you will see it was all written by men who reflected a hostile and misogynistic, pre-scientific culture who knew nothing of nature, science, geography and the universe and thus, they contradict what we know about those matters, which is enough to dismiss all claims of authenticity, divine authorship and inspiration. Therefore, using scripture to prove god is very much like using Star Wars to prove Yoda.  
 
Christians often ask: “how did something come from nothing?” ... Which is not what an atheist asserts as they explain the phenomenon of nature through science. “Something coming from nothing” is exactly what christians actually believe. They believe that an imaginary being made everything magically from nothing.... and they cannot prove it.
 
How do you "know" there is a god? Did someone tell you or did you see it? .. and who told those who told you? What evidence do you have to support the existence?
 
Christians only believe because they have been lied to. Here is the forensic evidence conducted and concluded by scientists with doctorate degrees:
 
Archaeological research indicates that there are NO first century contemporary writings outside of scripture (which are all mythological accounts), that document anything about jesus.
 
There were several writers during the first century who reported the current events of the time (political, social, natural disasters and artistic) and not one mentions anything about him. Additionally, if he was so famous, raising the dead, curing cripples, walking on water, turning water into wine and raising a ministry of hundreds of thousands and angered jews and Romans alike, there would be much reason to report something about him..... but there is silence.
 
There are not even any Roman court documents that mention him in spite of the fact that scripture suggests he was tried by Pilate himself and that he was a rabbi. Keeping in mind, the Romans were a military operation and very meticulous at keeping records of everything they did to demonstrate to their superiors their hold on the people they conquered. Everything was accounted for and we have tens of thousands of Roman documents from that region. Yet still….. No evidence of any jesus.
 
One must also keep in mind that there are no birth records, death records, tax records (as the Romans taxed everyone in the region), rabbi records and there is not even any record or mention of a last name. There are simply no documentations or any real life accounts about him during his alleged existence.
 
He is basically another man-invented deity attached to allegorical stories like the rest of them: Thorr, Horus, Osiris, Zeus, Odin, Metzli, Xenu, etc.....
 
I constantly hear evangelists and apologists cite Josephus but it is irrelevant. Josephus was not a contemporary and NEVER wrote anything about him.
 
For a start, Josephus was born in the year 37 CE (Common Era) and the alleged crucifixion took place somewhere between 29 CE and 34 CE. In other words, he was not around to document or witness.
 
There is a paragraph where he is mentioned in a much later version of the Josephus writings copied by christian scribes under the influence of Eusebius (235-339 CE), who arbitrarily edited the text and added a small paragraph about christ in the middle of two paragraphs where it clearly does not reflect relevance. It is evident by the paragraphs that follow which show zero relevance. There is evidence that supports this. More importantly, if Josephus was so compelled to write about him, recognizing Jesus as the savior, why didn’t Josephus convert to christianity? It has been confirmed that he lived and died and was buried as a jew.
 
Additionally, if christ was so famous and so important to the jews and early christians of the time period, why only such a short paragraph? And why only ONE, for that matter?
 
That interpolation  has been determined by ALL scholars to be a forgery, especially since the passage does not appear anywhere in the earlier versions of the writings by Josephus, therefore, no writings of jesus exist outside of scripture. Therefore, it is all mythological.
 
The so called “eye witnesses” that christians claim as evidence were born long after 34 CE (common era), the estimated date of the alleged crucifixion. So how could they have been witnesses to the resurrection if they were not even yet born to witness it? Christians are notorious for misrepresenting the facts.
 
Here are the facts regarding the “eye-witnesses” that christians lie about: Flavius Josephus 37-100, Clement of Rome 38-102, Ignatius 35-107, Pliny 62-113, Suetonius 75-160, Tacitus 55-117, Polycarp 69-155, Justin Martyr 114-167, Lucian 125-180, Clement of Alexandria 150-211, Tertullian 155-230, Origen 185-254, Cyprian of Carthage 208-258, Eusebius 235-339.
 
So you see, all these men were born after the alleged existence and therefore, could not have possibly been eye witnesses.
 
These findings have been confirmed and verified, yet, christians  reject it.
 
The only sources we know of that document anything in detail (and not much detail since none offer a physical description of him either) about a jesus are the gospels, which plagiarize identical characters from different cultures, that predate the culture of that era by thousands of years and they are open to a multitude of interpretations, lack coherence, are overwhelmed with contradictions and read more like fantasy than reality. Turning water into wine, walking on water and a virgin births were very typical miracles of ancient allegory in Egyptian and Mesopotamian allegory and story telling.
 
Additionally, no one can confirm who wrote the gospels (or any biblical text, old or new testament) and carbon dating tests conclude that the earliest copy we have of the gospels was written in the 7th decade of the first century which makes them inconclusive as a source since that is 4 to 5 decades after the alleged crucifixion. There is also evidence that they have been altered and mistranslated.
 
Of very important notice is that whoever wrote them used and borrowed from other gospels and some paragraphs are even copied word for word. So in essence, we are talking about only one gospel. None of the Gospels indicate they were being dictated by any eye witnesses except for the gospel of John although it never mentions who that witness is.... but keep in mind they were written at an era where eye witnesses to the events could not be alive.
 
Not to mention, they do not qualify as evidence.
 
But one thing that must be addressed regarding the alleged death of jesus is that it has been well documented that those who were crucified by the Romans during the first century C.E. were crucified as a means of complete humiliation, which included leaving the bodies exposed to scavengers as they decayed. In other words, they were not recovered by their families for a proper burial. This fact on its own debunks the new testament gospels concerning the burial and grave site. Also, There were no hardware stores during the time to obtain wood for making crosses and it has been confirmed by archaeologists that the crucified were literally nailed to the trees that surrounded the prisoner holding areas where they could be seen and further humiliated.
 
Christians also cling to the Catholic “relic” recognized as the shroud of Turin. They believe it is the cloth that draped the body of jesus in spite of the fact that it has been soundly debunked. Close examinations of the shroud, including several independent carbon dating tests, have all unequivocally concluded that the shroud’s material is far too recent to be associated with christ, placing it in the 13th century and that the proportions of body depicted are less than perfect, with extra long arms and incorrect facial placement of the eyes and forehead. In spite of these discoveries, christians, without any credentials, still fabricate apologetic arguments (mainly that the portions that were tested were portions that nuns restitched when the shroud was damaged) that are unsubstantiated in an attempt to dismiss the scientific, peer reviewed research by the scientists with doctorate degrees.
 
 Muslims believe that the Qur'an contains a message from an all-powerful, all-knowing, infallible god. If this is true then it should not contain any errors or information that contradicts known facts about the universe. If even one error exists in the text of their holy book, then the claims of divine authorship and infallibility are not true. An objective evaluation of the Qur’an shows that it contains numerous scientific and historical errors and reflects a pre-scientific, 7th century view of the natural world.
 
Some apologists will contest those scientific errors in the Qur'an by appealing to metaphor, alternative meanings, or supernatural interpretations of the text. Even if we accept that alternative explanations were possible in every case, the wording and content of the verses often mimic the popular mythology and unscientific misconceptions of the time in which they were written. The author makes no clear or unambiguous statements that differentiate his understanding of the natural world from the common folklore of the people living in that era.
 
If the Qur’an was delivered by an all-powerful, all-knowing god, then he would have been able to foresee how such misleading statements would be understood by future generations and the doubts and confusions they have caused. This alone should be reason to reject any claims to divine authorship.
 
As for judeism,   jews named themselves "god's chosen people" in a book that they wrote. It is amusing that a book of stories, ancient allegory,  has been accepted as reality, masquerading as divine law. When examining the sources, it is very easy to conclude that they are inconsistent, inconclusive and in no way have any foundation in reality.
 
There is no evidence outside of scripture that Moses existed. No Egyptian records ever mention him nor a mass exodus of hundreds of thousands of jews and there is no archaeological evidence to corroborate that they were slaves and wandered through the desert for 40 years (even though the distance of their alleged journey is a six day walking distance). That legend is a lie as well as the story of the great flood and Noah's ark. They are nothing but fiction.
 
Jews have tried using the defense that the Egyptians never documented their losses or defeats but that is not true since their defeat and conquest by the Romans has been well documented as well as the burning of Alexandria and many other defeats.
 
The story of Noah's ark is the greatest bull shit story ever told and it is ridiculous that people believe it actually happened. For a start, there is no evidence that the entire planet was covered with water at any time due to flooding. We have evidence that many cultures in different parts of the world during the time they claim the flood happened did not experience any floods. Secondly, anyone that has visited a great big zoo would realize the man power and space required to accommodate and care for two of each species of animals for a prolonged period of time is beyond the means and technological capacity of the largest boat ever built even in these modern times. Thirdly, think about the distribution of the animals throughout the different continents that are indigenous to those areas. The ark was never built, Noah never existed and the flooding never happened. Period.
 
Israelis now invade Palestinian territories claiming divine right and when Palestinians retaliate, they call them “terrorists” when the jewish government are the actual terrorists.
 
We urge everyone to speak to your local politicians about how we can stop our hard earned American dollars that the US sends each year to aid Israel. This is an outrage! Our tax dollars should be re-invested in America.
 
We find it preposterous that many believe and support Israel because of the biblical writing (which they authored) that says the land was promised to them by a god when that is entirely the work of the imagination. It is a ridiculous book written by many authors who had very little or no knowledge of the world and the universe and reflects a primitive social culture from the first century overwhelmed with contradictions and many errors and misrepresentations of the facts.
 
Again, many claim the bible is true and real but after objective reviews and examinations (which believers never do), using it to prove god or its very own authenticity is very much like using Star Wars to prove Yoda.
 
However, when demonstrating the evidence to believers, there is a social phenomenon of denial: they don't want to know it, they reject science as just an “opinion” because they are closed to the reality that there is no god. In some cases it even feels like administering medication to a corpse.
 
It is so pathetic when christians come out with the weakest arguments to demonstrate as “evidence” for their imaginary god and they have no clue how stupid they sound.
 
One of their strongest claims is usually something like: “My friend was in a car accident and almost died and I prayed to jesus to save them and they lived”....
 
How is that evidence?
 
What about the babies who are born weak and premature and die in spite of desperate parents praying to their jesus to save them? What about those who pray and pray and do not get what they pray for?
 
They are simply forgetting basic math... The reality is that praying for something is the same as wishing for something and the reality with that is that the odds for anything are 50/50.
 
That is NOT evidence that their imaginary god is not imaginary.
 
If prayer actually worked, ambulances would drive the sick and injured to church instead of hospitals and "faith healers" would be healing the sick in hospitals. Ever wonder why those "healers" claiming to be god don't operate in hospitals?
 
Then we encounter the born again fanatics. Born again fanatics claim that their evidence for god is their own experience of “defeating the drug and alcohol demons”..... But that is substituting one brain stimulant for another. Drugs and alcohol are gateway drugs to christianity and the brainwashed completely ignore the evidence that christ never even existed.
 
Trading one psychological dependency for a different one, all based on a misunderstanding of rather well understood neurological phenomena has always struck me as a person showing off a lifestyle of willful ignorance as if it were a badge of honor.
 
However, as we talk about reality here, the fact remains, as indicated above, that there is evidence that jesus never even existed and archaeological evidence indicates that it was man, in all cultures, that invented god/s to interpret what he could not understand before we had science for valid, satisfactory answers. When you think about it, we are a long way from the days when illnesses were believed to be a sign of evil or that volcanic eruptions were the wrath of the gods or that epilepsy was believed to be demonic possession.
 
Believers also claim that their evidence for their "god" is their very own personal feelings and experiences. Personal anecdotes do not qualify as evidence since personal experiences are subject to  perception and a multitude of differing interpretations.
 
 A person who is suffering and experiences something they perceive as a miracle does not qualify as evidence because in a mental or physical state of suffering, their judgement is impaired and logical explanations are ignored.
 
There is always a logical explanation for everything. They simply elected to embrace something that brings comfort, that soothes them, but know they have forsaken logic and rational judgement to get there.
 
We have had preachers aggressively approach us about becoming a christian and their tact is always terror. All he kept talking about was eternity in hell, sucking satan's dick.
 
It is quite easy to see how weaker minded people will yield and accept the fear based lies but it is all done using terror tactics. If their imaginary god is so loving, why do they need to resort to terror tactics to recruit followers into believing their lies? Fear does a lot to a person. Their beliefs have no foundation in reality. When you do the research, the whole devil thing was invented to control people with fear. It has never been about truth because they do not have any.
 
Another thing to note, especially within the Hispanic communities everywhere, people follow religious beliefs more out of tradition rather than for true belief. I think Pablo Bram said it best in his book when he said "Sin creer creyendo", which means: Believing without believing.
 
Don't forget how believers, through the ages, have always resorted to gargantuan violence to convert those who opposed them. Christian, hebrew and muslim history is clearly recorded and well documented to have gained ground upon many populations based on war and violence. They routinely kill each other over the statement "our god is real" but it doesn't exist. If they had REAL evidence that their god is not imaginary, they wouldn't need to resort to terror tactics or violence and they wouldn't need faith, they would have facts. ... but they don't.
 
Believers often criticize atheists about why we care to argue that there is no god and it seems they miss the point.
 
As atheists, it is a fight worth fighting if you value your freedom. It is always the theists, believers, who attempt to sneak their beliefs into our laws, government, schools and our currency. They think they have the right to dictate how everyone must live, even when it comes to the bedroom, which in essence, violates our human rights. Not to mention, if all churches paid taxes, the rest of us would be better off.
 
So the fight is on!
 
There must be separation of church and state.
 
There should not be any mention or endorsements of any mythological deities and/or organizations on any government buildings, public schools, public places, public vehicles, our pledge of allegiance and our currency anywhere. 
 
Their worst offense is how they have been passing and attempting to pass laws influenced by flawed religious beliefs which very clearly discriminate against part of the population and violate the human rights of others.
 
- Would christians like it if our tax dollars were used to fund schools that teach islamic beliefs?
 
- Would christians like it if our court houses and police cars were tagged with the words “allah be praised”?
 
- Would christians like it if their kids were forced to recite islamic prayers before a football game?
 
- Would christians like it if politicians spoke of government adhering to islamic beliefs?
 
- That would be quite a trespass upon you and a violation of your rights wouldn't it?
 
- Atheists and others with different beliefs live with this violation daily with christian influence in government.
 
Many politicians want prayer back in schools as well as the teaching of creationism as a science. That is quite ridiculous since creationism is not a science, but a religious misrepresentation of nature, based on flawed scriptures, and there are no scientific studies, research nor observations to support it. Their claim is that it should be taught alongside evolution (scientific fact) and to let students decide what to believe. To even suggest that is crazy. That’s like teaching about human reproduction from a medical point of view, which is correct, and also teaching about the stork bringing home a baby and to let the student decide where babies come from.
 
If they are allowed to sneak their mythology unchallenged, we will all be forced to live in a fascist theocracy and there is no way I will ever accept that. Which is why I urge everyone to vote, to let your voice be heard, to stand up and be counted.
 
Again, the bible is the claim and not the evidence. 
 
Do you have any evidence that supports your deity is not imaginary? Were the Greek gods legend or real? Were the Egyptian gods real or legend? Were the Roman gods real or legend? Were the Aztec and Mayan and Hawaiian gods real or legend? How about the Norse gods... real or legend?
 
You see, all cultures invented gods to interpret and answer what man could not before we had science for valid, satisfactory answers. The problem with yours, as the rest of them, is that you all make outrageous claims and it makes your belief as equally ridiculous as the other gods.
 
How do you "know" there is a god? Did someone tell you or did you see it? .. and who told those who told you? What evidence do you have to support the existence?
 
Mass belief does not certify a myth to be true.
 
I really don’t care if they want to believe that an imaginary deity made man from dirt or if they reject evolution. But I do have a problem when they start bringing all that nonsense into our laws and schools as if it were true and they should pay taxes. The fact that they mislead people with false hopes on our dime is ridiculous!
 
Federal endorsement of a particular mythological belief or deity is a violation of the US constitution.
 
Theists have the most distorted view about atheism:
1. That we hate god (how does one hate something that does not exist?)
2. That we worship the devil, that we are satanists (we don't believe in the devil either)
3. That we are bad people & have no morals (we don't need a god to know right from wrong. Meanwhile 90% of the prison population is Christian).
4. That something horrible happened to us in order to abandon god. (ridiculous and arrogant presumption since our conclusions are rational).
5. That there is no love in us. (you are totally clueless)
6. That we are evil people. (not believing in your particular god does not make us bad people)
7. That we are angry people. (you mistake our efforts to have a rational world, where theists don’t interfere and violate the freedom of people, for anger)
8. That Atheism is a religion. (VERY stupid thing to say. It’s like saying that not collecting stamps is a hobby)
9. That atheism is just an “opinion” when it is actually a conclusion based on scientific findings.
10. That we live without purpose. We are here to live, laugh and love.
 
Atheism inspires us to make the best out of life since it is not like the life of a theist, which they treat as a dress rehearsal for an afterlife which is not going to be there when they die.
 
When we die, time & consciousness ceases for us. It will be as the void before our birth. There will be nothing and we will not even be aware of it, as if we never even lived at all. Too bad we will not be able to point out to anyone in death: "you see, no god, no heaven & no afterlife" when they don't get to the “heaven” they were promised all these years.
 
Evidence indicates that our personality & consciousness comes from the brain, therefore, when it is dead, it is likely that we cease. If you damage a part of the brain, a person's personality changes, memories can be lost, abilities can be lost. Why would anyone think that when the brain decomposes the person remains intact?
 
God is fiction, a myth over-idolized with super-powers & overwhelmed with contradictions. Those who currently believe in a god/s do so because they have been lied to and have not had the initiative to question it. The fact remains that no believer can provide us with REAL evidence that their god is not imaginary.
 
The worst part is that theists are not at all interested in viewing the evidence that debunks their beliefs.
 
The problem with believers is that they cannot accept our atheism (they often feel threatened and they resort to insults and name-calling) because they feel they have “proof” to back up their claims in spite of evidence that debunks it all. The church controls gullible followers (who never question anything) with horror tactics, such as the threat of eternal burning hell.
 
When there is zero evidence to prove their imaginary god is real, that, within itself, is evidence he does not exist. What they consider evidence is NOT evidence at all.
 
Turning water into wine, a woman getting pregnant without a man's sperm, walking on water, a talking snake, raising the dead, the building of an ark to shelter and feed two of each species for more than a year, a woman transforming into a pillar of salt, a man swallowed alive by a whale for several days, the world being only six thousand years old, and resurrection...... These outrageous, untrue and impossible claims are nothing more than story-telling myths that contradict everything we know and have observed in nature, science, geography, physics and the universe, and should be the very first clue that the scriptures (all faiths) are not a newspaper from the past and in no way evidence of a god.
 
This lacks coherence and doesn't even touch the contradictions it is overwhelmed with!!!
 
What I find quite alarming is that christians, without an education and without credentials, argue against the scientific evidence that debunks the bible, thus, pretending to "KNOW" more than scientists, anthropologists, archaeologists, biologists, forensic scientists, scholars and university professors with doctorate degrees and with peer reviewed published works that confirm their findings as facts.
 
Some christian apologists have degrees in theology, which unfortunately, impresses christian followers, but they do NOT understand that a degree in theology is worthless since it is NOT a science and always open to numerous interpretations and the socially acceptable constituents of different traditions and cultures, which have been known to evolve through time. The fact remains that no theistic belief has any foundation in reality and has no tangible nor palpable evidence that can be tested or observed. So, in essence, a degree in theology is no different from an education in cryptozoology.
 
I challenge any christian (or jew or muslim, etc...) to find a valid, university approved science text book that corroborates any of their obtuse claims from the bible.

In closing, our fight is to make sure theists stay out of government and pay taxes. They have gotten away with unfair tax exemptions for far too long. When you do the math, if they paid taxes, there would be enough money to go around for everyone to receive very much needed free health care and services for the less fortunate. I don't care what they believe as long as they keep it out of government, laws, schools, our lives and do it on their dime..... not ours!
 
Copyright  ©  2014  
 
Sources: Oxford University Press, Dr. Bart Ehrman, Dr. Richard Carrier, Dr. Fransesca Stavrakopoulou, Dr. Robert Price and David Fitzgerald.
 
 
"It appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments againstchristianity and theism produce hardly any effect on the public; and freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds which follows from the advance of science." [Darwin]
 
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities."[Voltaire]
 
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the object of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short,who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." [Einstein]
 
"Faith means not wanting to know what is true."[Nietzsche]
 
"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. Itis born of our tenacity of life – our desire to go on living … our dread of coming to an end." [Edison]"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. Icould never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." [Lincoln]
 
"Religion is a byproduct of fear. For much of human history,it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary?Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity?" [Arthur C. Clarke]
 
"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies." [Thomas Jefferson] 
 
“Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man”...Thomas Jefferson   
 
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." [KurtVonnegut]
 
"Religion is based . . . mainly on fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. . . .My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race." [BertrandRussell]
 
"Religion doesn't know anything"...Aron Ra
 
"Christians always write to me threatening me with Hell. Strange how they think this vindicates them and their religion. Threats are the hallmark of a wicked creed.  ."  ... Richard Carrier"
 
The belief in deities requires magic to be possible, which repudiates our observations of nature and physics. Gods are inventions of early man to interpret and answer what we could not before the development of science studies for valid and satisfactory answers."...Damiern Lee Thorr

"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." [Thomas Jefferson] 

"The grandest paranormal claim, made by the most people, the most vehemently – so vehemently they routinely kill each other over it – is “Our God Exists.” But he doesn’t…" [Richard Carrier]

The bible is not to be taken seriously..... by Damien Lee Thorr The bible is the claim, not the evidence. It is inconsistent, contains horrors and contradictions and thus it should not be taken seriously.

There are numerous preachers out there who mislead their followers with the "the bible has eye witnesses to jesus" lie. These people simply don't realize that there are several authors for each of the gospels and none say the books were dictated by a witness except for the gospel of John but it fails to name the witness.

As an example of the inconsistencies, I'd like to mention the King James version of the new testament, which was completed in 1611 by eight members of the church of England.

They had no original texts to translate. The oldest copy or text we have was written hundreds of years after the last of the apostles died and there are over 8,000 of these old manuscripts with no two alike!

The King James translators never used any of those but they edited previous translations available to them to create a version the king and parliament would approve.

Essentially, 21st century christians are following a book edited in the 17th century from 16th century translations of 8,000 contradictory copies of 4th century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the first century, common era. Most clergy are unaware of this fact.

Then they claim the bible is all about love and deny or ignore the many horrors contained in it. They often state that we are taking things out of context, yet here they are below, as they appear in scripture:

Luke 19:27 But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

2 Chronicles 15:12-13 And they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

2 Chronicles 15:13 But that whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

Deuteronomy 17:1-20 “You shall not sacrifice to the LORD your God an ox or a sheep in which is a blemish, any defect whatever, for that is an abomination to the LORD your God. “If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones. ...

Exodus 22:19 “Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Deuteronomy 17:2-5 “If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones.

1 Corinthians 5:9-13 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

Psalm 23:1-6 A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters. He restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me. You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows. ... Psalm 49:10 For he sees that even the wise die; the fool and the stupid alike must perish and leave their wealth to others.

Leviticus 20:27 “A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.” John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Deuteronomy 17:12 The man who acts presumptuously by not obeying the priest who stands to minister there before the LORD your God, or the judge, that man shall die. So you shall purge the evil from Israel.

Luke 19:11-27 As they heard these things, he proceeded to tell a parable, because he was near to Jerusalem, and because they supposed that the kingdom of God was to appear immediately. He said therefore, “A nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and then return. Calling ten of his servants, he gave them ten minas, and said to them, ‘Engage in business until I come.’ But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’ When he returned, having received the kingdom, he ordered these servants to whom he had given the money to be called to him, that he might know what they had gained by doing business. ...

1 Samuel 15:2-3 Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Deuteronomy 13:13-18 That certain worthless fellows have gone out among you and have drawn away the inhabitants of their city, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, then you shall inquire and make search and ask diligently. And behold, if it be true and certain that such an abomination has been done among you, you shall surely put the inhabitants of that city to the sword, devoting it to destruction, all who are in it and its cattle, with the edge of the sword. You shall gather all its spoil into the midst of its open square and burn the city and all its spoil with fire, as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. It shall be a heap forever. It shall not be built again. None of the devoted things shall stick to your hand, that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger and show you mercy and have compassion on you and multiply you, as he swore to your fathers, ...

Matthew 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Matthew 5:17-18 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Exodus 21:15 “Whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death.

Hebrews 3:12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.

Romans 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

1 Corinthians 7:13-14 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

John 9:30-33 The man answered, “Why, this is an amazing thing! You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him. Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a man born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.”

Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Esther 5:1-14 On the third day Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner court of the king's palace, in front of the king's quarters, while the king was sitting on his royal throne inside the throne room opposite the entrance to the palace. And when the king saw Queen Esther standing in the court, she won favor in his sight, and he held out to Esther the golden scepter that was in his hand. Then Esther approached and touched the tip of the scepter. And the king said to her, “What is it, Queen Esther? What is your request? It shall be given you, even to the half of my kingdom.” And Esther said, “If it please the king, let the king and Haman come today to a feast that I have prepared for the king.” Then the king said, “Bring Haman quickly, so that we may do as Esther has asked.” So the king and Haman came to the feast that Esther had prepared. ...

John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

Deuteronomy “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter or the wife you embrace or your friend who is as your own soul entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which neither you nor your fathers have known, some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

Isaiah 3:1-26 For behold, the Lord GOD of hosts is taking away from Jerusalem and from Judah support and supply, all support of bread, and all support of water; the mighty man and the soldier, the judge and the prophet, the diviner and the elder, the captain of fifty and the man of rank, the counselor and the skillful magician and the expert in charms. And I will make boys their princes, and infants shall rule over them. And the people will oppress one another, every one his fellow and every one his neighbor; the youth will be insolent to the elder, and the despised to the honorable. ...

Revelation 20:10 And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

2 John 1:9-11 ESV / 95 helpful votes Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

2 Corinthians 6:14-17 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you.

1 Corinthians 7:12-16:24 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? ...

John 3:1-36 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. ...

Proverbs 3:5-7 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD, and turn away from evil. Psalm 14:1 To the choirmaster. Of David. The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good.

John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

Colossians 2:1-23 For I want you to know how great a struggle I have for you and for those at Laodicea and for all who have not seen me face to face, that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God's mystery, which is Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. I say this in order that no one may delude you with plausible arguments. For though I am absent in body, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the firmness of your faith in Christ. ...

Exodus 23:7 Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and righteous, for I will not acquit the wicked.

Deuteronomy 17:2 “If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, in transgressing his covenant,

Romans 1:20-32 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, ...

1 Timothy 1:20 Among whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.

Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Deuteronomy 17:3-5 And has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones.

Exodus 22:20 “Whoever sacrifices to any god, other than the LORD alone, shall be devoted to destruction. Jeremiah 48:10 “Cursed is he who does the work of the LORD with slackness, and cursed is he who keeps back his sword from bloodshed.

Deuteronomy 13:7-12 Some of the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other, you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him. But you shall kill him. Your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. And all Israel shall hear and fear and never again do any such wickedness as this among you. ...

.... and there are many, many more....

The bible also contains numerous contradictions but these clergy always ignore them and they attempt to explain them away with biased opinions. However, the fact is that the contradictions are there whether they dismiss them or not.

Here are some of those contradictions:

A Young Earth?
Genesis 1:16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth. The stars gave light to the earth immediately, although the closest star, Alpha Centauri, is 4.3 light years away. So the very first star light would have taken 4.3 years to reach earth. The light we see from the Andromeda Galaxy takes 2.2 million years to reach earth, which also debunks the argument that the earth is only 6,000-10,000 years old.

The Order of Creation

Genesis 1:11-12 and 1:26-27 Trees came before Adam.

Genesis 2:4-9 Trees came after Adam.

Genesis 1:20-21 and 26-27 Birds were created before Adam.

Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Birds were created after Adam.

Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before Adam.

Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Animals were created after Adam. Genesis 1:26-27 Adam and Eve were created at the same time.

Genesis 2:7 and 2:21-22 Adam was created first, woman sometime later. Other Issues in the Garden

Genesis 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.

Genesis 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation. Which raises the question, how can an omnipotent, omniscient God create something he’s not pleased with?

Genesis 2:3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. An omnipotent being required…rest?

Genesis 2:16-17 And the Lord God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." God placed temptation in the direct path of his two naïve children and allowed them to be tempted by the serpent (Genesis 3: 1-7), resulting in a single mistake that would contaminate hundreds of billions with a sin nature worthy of eternal torture?

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, ’You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?" A talking snake. Enough said.

NOAH’S ARK AND THE GREAT FLOOD

Genesis 7:6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth. And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives entered the ark to escape the waters of the flood. Eight Bronze-Age humans over 500-years-old built a watercraft the size of a football stadium with only felled trees and pitch?

Genesis6:19 You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you.

Answers In Genesis posits that Noah gathered "kinds" of animals and not all "species," an estimated 16,000 pairs, which raises a few animal-related questions:

• How, exactly, did eight extreme senior citizens load, manage and care for 32,000 animals?

• What about specialized diets (bamboo for the giant panda, meat for the carnivores, fresh vegetation for the herbivores)?

• Who cleaned each stall and shoveled the tons of daily excrement through the huge ark’s single window? • How did they separate the predator and prey animals? Did the lion lay with the lamb?

• How do you explain the acquisition and loading of animals not indigenous to the Middle East (many separated by oceans), like the polar bear, the sloth, the crocodile, the fruit bat, the anaconda, etc? And how did the penguins and other cold-climate creatures survive in the blistering desert heat?

• Wouldn’t freshwater rains from the sky have made the saltwater deadly to ocean marine life? And wouldn’t saltwater have proven equally toxic to all freshwater fish? If water boiled up from beneath the earth’s crust, wouldn’t water temperature changes in the delicate ecosystem have also had a deadly effect?

• Dinosaurs on the ark. Did they exit the boat and THEN get hit by a comet?

Genesis 7:19-20 {the waters} They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. This would require steady, planet-wide rainfall at the rate of 6 inches per minute, 360 inches an hour, for 40 days and 40 nights, covering Mount Everest under 22 feet of water. How, exactly, did Noah measure this for the record? Where has all of the water gone since? And why is there no legitimate geological evidence of a global flood?

Genesis 8:8 Then he sent out a dove to see if the water had receded from the surface of the ground. Why did Noah require a dove to find land (Genesis if he and God were on speaking terms in Genesis 6?

Genesis 8:15-16 Then God said to Noah, "Come out of the ark, you and your wife and your sons and their wives. Bring out every kind of living creature that is with you—the birds, the animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground—so they can multiply on the earth and be fruitful and increase in number on it." When the ark landed, what did the carnivores eat? All other animal life had been drowned. And vegetation would’ve also been wiped out in the flood, so what did the herbivores eat to survive?

Genesis 9:1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 8 people of middle-eastern descent practiced incest to produce over 5,000 of today’s ethnic groups in only a few hundred generations?

Genesis 9:20 Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded to plant a vineyard. When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. The only guy worth saving spent his latter days drunk and naked? THE NATIVITY STORY Who Did the Angel Speak to Regarding the Birth of Jesus?

Matthew 1:20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. The angel appeared to Joseph.

Luke 1:28 In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. The angel went to her and said, "Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you." The angel spoke to Mary. Was Mary a Virgin? Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

Matthew 1:23 The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us"). The Greek Septuagint which Matthew used translates it as "a virgin shall conceive and bear a son," but the Hebrew word "almah" means "young woman of marriageable age," not a virgin. Did Mary Journey to Bethlehem?

Luke 2:1-3 In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. (This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.) And everyone went to their own town to register. A woman 9-months pregnant traveled a great distance on the back of a donkey? Why does the book of Matthew mention no census? And If ever there was a decree there was none that all lineage of David should go to Bethlehem to be counted, Mary would have been excluded because she was not a "lineage of David." Was Jesus Born in a House or a Manger?

Matthew 2:11 On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. In a house.

Luke 2:7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. In a manger. There was no room in the inn. Shepherds or Wisemen?

Matthew 2:1-2 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him." Magi (astronomers or astrologers).

Luke 2:15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us. Shepherds.

Did Mary and Joseph Flee to Safety?

Matthew 2:13-16 When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. "Get up," he said, "take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him." So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt, where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: "Out of Egypt I called my son." When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under, in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi. They fled to Egypt until Herod’s death. But notice Luke’s account.

Luke 2:39 When Joseph and Mary had done everything required by the Law of the Lord, they returned to Galilee to their own town of Nazareth. And the child grew and became strong; he was filled with wisdom, and the grace of God was upon him. The Christ child was presented, and Mary and Joseph returned to Nazareth. There’s no mention of Herod’s decree or a flight to Egypt for safety.

Solomon’s Temple 1 Kings 6:2 The temple that King Solomon built for the LORD was sixty cubits long, twenty wide and thirty high.

1 Kings 5:15-16: Solomon had seventy thousand carriers and eighty thousand stone cutters in the hills, as well as thirty-three hundred foremen who supervised the project and directed the workmen. Why were 153,300 people required to build such a small structure?

1 Kings 6:38 In the eleventh year in the month of Bul, the eighth month, the temple was finished in all its details according to its specifications. He had spent seven years building it. Why did it take 7 years to construct?

1 Chronicles 22:14 I have taken great pains to provide for the temple of the LORD a hundred thousand talents of gold, a million talents of silver, quantities of bronze and iron too great to be weighed, and wood and stone. And you may add to them. Over 7 million pounds of gold and 75 million pounds of silver were required to construct this small structure.

Solomon’s Sacrifice 2 Chronicles 7:5 And King Solomon offered a sacrifice of twenty-two thousand head of cattle and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep and goats. So the king and all the people dedicated the temple of God. 2 Chronicles 7:8-9 So Solomon observed the festival at that time for seven days, and all Israel with him—a vast assembly, people from Lebo [a] Hamath to the Wadi of Egypt. On the eighth day they held an assembly, for they had celebrated the dedication of the altar for seven days and the festival for seven days more. That’s 22,000 oxen and 120,000 sheep in a single week. That’s about 850 animals an hour, 14 every minute. Can Man Be Righteous?

Genesis 7:1: The LORD then said to Noah, "Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. Noah was righteous.

Job 2:3: Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason." Job was righteous.

Luke 1:6: Both of them were upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commandments and regulations blamelessly. Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous. James 5:16: Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective. Some men are righteous, and their prayers are effective.

1 John 3:7: Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous Christians become righteous.

Romans 3:10: As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one; No one is righteous. Who Has Seen God?

Genesis 32:30: And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. Jacob actually wrestled with God and was renamed "Israel" by God at that moment.

John 1:18: No man hath seen God at any time. John the Baptist was denying to the Jews of Jerusalem that he was the Christ.

Numbers 14:14: Thou, Lord, art seen face to face. Moses was explaining to the grumbling Israelite assembly that God had displayed his presence to free them from Egypt.

John 6:46: Not that any man hath seen the Father. Jesus was explaining why he is the "bread of life"...God’s proxy here on earth. Who is Punished for Sins?

Ezekiel 18:20: The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father. The penalty of sin is placed upon only the sinner, not the offspring.

Exodus 20:5: I the lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. The penalty of sin affects generations. Does God Keep Anger Forever?

Jeremiah 3:12: ... for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever. God pleads with Israel to repent and return to Him.

Jeremiah 17:4: Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever. Same book. Also note the previous chapter, where God brings disaster in verse 11: "…it is because your fathers forsook me," generational punishment which again contradicts Ezekiel 18:20 Who Brought the Capernaum Centurion’a Request to Jesus?

Matthew 8:5: And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came unto him a centurion, beseeching him. It’s the centurion himself who comes.

Luke 7:3: And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant. The centurion sends some elders.

Luke 7:6: Then Jesus went with them. And when he was now not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying unto him, Lord, trouble not thyself: for I am not worthy that thou shouldest enter under my roof. The centurion sends friends. Same book, same chapter as "elders." Where Did Jesus Go After Feeding the 5,000?

Mark 6:53: When they had crossed over, they landed at Gennesaret and anchored there. Jesus and the disciples went to Gennesaret.

John 6:24-25: Once the crowd realized that neither Jesus nor his disciples were there, they got into the boats and went to Capernaum in search of Jesus. When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?" Jesus and the disciples went to Capernaum. Where Did the Devil Take Jesus?

Matthew 4:5-8: Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: ’He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone." Jesus answered him, "It is also written: ’Do not put the Lord your God to the test." Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me." Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ’Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’ Satan took Jesus to the pinnacle of the temple, then to the mountain top.

Luke 4:5-9: The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. So if you worship me, it will all be yours." Jesus answered, "It is written: ’Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’ The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down from here. Satan took Jesus to the mountain first, then the temple. How Many Blind Men Did Jesus Heal on the Road from Jericho?

Matthew 20:29: As Jesus and his disciples were leaving Jericho, a large crowd followed him. Two blind men were sitting by the roadside, and when they heard that Jesus was going by, they shouted, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on us!" Jesus healed the two men in verse 34.

Mark 10:46-47: Then they came to Jericho. As Jesus and his disciples, together with a large crowd, were leaving the city, a blind man, Bartimaeus (that is, the Son of Timaeus), was sitting by the roadside begging. When he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to shout, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!" There was only one blind man. Where Did the Anointing of Jesus Take Place?

Matthew 26:6-7: While Jesus was in Bethany in the home of a man known as Simon the Leper, a woman came to him with an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, which she poured on his head as he was reclining at the table. The anointing happens in Bethany, at the house of Simon the leper. An unnamed woman anoints Jesus. Oil is placed on Jesus’ head.

Luke 7:36-37: Now one of the Pharisees invited Jesus to have dinner with him, so he went to the Pharisee’s house and reclined at the table. When a woman who had lived a sinful life in that town learned that Jesus was eating at the Pharisee’s house, she brought an alabaster jar of perfume. The anointing takes place at the house of a Pharisee in Galilee. Oil is placed not on Jesus’ head, but on his feet.

John 12:3: Then Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. It isn’t an unnamed woman sinner who anoints Jesus, but Mary who does the honors. Where Did Jesus Meet Simon, Peter and Andrew?

Matthew 4:18-19: And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. Peter and Andrew are fishing.

John 1:42-43: And he (Andrew) brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone. The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me. Andrew was following Jesus, found his brother and brought him to Jesus. Did Jesus Allow His Disciples to Carry a Staff?

Mark 6:8: And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse: They’re allowed to bring a staff.

Luke 9:3: And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. Staffs, or "staves," are specifically mentioned as something NOT to bring. Did the Fig Tree That Jesus Cursed Wither Immediately or Overnight?

Matthew 21:19: And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. It happened immediately, and the disciples were amazed.

Mark 11:20: And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. The dried up fig tree was discovered the following morning. Did Jesus Speak at His Hearing Before Pilate?

Matthew 27:11: Meanwhile Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor asked him, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. When he was accused by the chief priests and the elders, he gave no answer. Then Pilate asked him, "Don’t you hear the testimony they are bringing against you?" But Jesus made no reply, not even to a single charge— to the great amazement of the governor. Jesus doesn’t answer the charges.

John 18:37: "You are a king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus answered, "You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me." Jesus answers the charges. What Color Robe Was Jesus Given?

Matthew 27:28: They stripped him and put a scarlet robe on him. Jesus is given a scarlet robe.

John 19:2: The soldiers twisted together a crown of thorns and put it on his head. They clothed him in a purple robe. Jesus is given a purple robe. Who Carried Jesus’ Cross?

Mark 15:20b-24a: ... and led him out to crucify him. And they compel one Simon a Cyrennian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus to bear his cross. And they bring him unto the place Golgotha, which is, being interpreted, The place of a skull. And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not. And when they had crucified him. Simon of Cyrene carried the cross John 19:16-18: Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus and led him away. And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha where they crucified him. Jesus carried the cross.

When Was Jesus Crucified?
Mark 15:25: And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. The third hour, as noted in the Amplified Bible, is 9am

John 19:14-16: And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour: and he (Pilate) saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. Then delivered he him over therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away. The sixth hour is Noon. What Were the Centurion’s Words at the Cross?

Matthew 27:54: When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son of God!"

Luke 23:47: The centurion, seeing what had happened, praised God and said, "Surely this was a righteous man." Where Was Jesus on the Sixth Hour of the Crucifixion?

Mark 15:32-33: And they that were crucified with him reviled him. And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. Christ was already on the cross at 9am.

John 19:14-15: And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. It was 9am as Jesus was being judged at Pilate’s palace. What Were Jesus’ Last Words on the Cross?

Matthew 27:46: Eli, Eli, lama sabachtani? that is to say, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Verse 50 says he cried out again before dying, but no mention is made of spoken words.)

Luke 23:46: Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.

John 19:30: It is finished How Long Did it Take for Jesus to Get to Heaven After the Crucifixion?

Matthew 12:40: For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Jesus wouldn’t ascend to heaven for 3 days. His journey is compared to Jonah’s 3 days in the belly of the fish.

Luke 23:42-43: And he said unto Jesus, "Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom." And Jesus said unto him, "Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in Paradise." Jesus is to be in Paradise that very day. Who Were the First Visitors to Jesus’ Tomb?

Matthew 28:1: After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary

Mark 16:1: When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus’ body. The two Marys, plus a third person, Salome

Luke 24:10: When they came back from the tomb, they told all these things to the Eleven and to all the others. It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them who told this to the apostles. The two Marys, Joanna, and "the others."

John 20:1: Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. Only Mary Magdalene There are many, many more contradictions..... So here we have a bible they claim to be inerrant even though it contains contradictions and horrors. The obtuse claims repudiate our observations of nature and science. If they adhere to the contents of the bible to its word, as they claim it is true and inerrant, I'd like to propose a challenge: In Mark 16:18, it states that you could consume poison and your faith will save you from dying. Alright, I bet no one will take poison and pray for survival without calling for medical intervention. Of course they don't have faith of that level and I'm betting they will come up with lame excuses to dismiss the challenge. I quote from my previous writings: using the bible to prove god is the same as using Star Wars to prove Yoda....

 Damien Lee Thorr

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I was talking with a Christian recently who thinks that atheists are dumb for not believing in god.

She went on to say that she “knows the truth in her heart”…

The problem is that personal testimony is subjective and not evidence.

She stated that there’s proof of jesus because “his tomb is empty” and also pointed to our calendar of BC and AD.

When she said that, I experienced another one of those moments of face palming … why? Because it is very clear that Christians only believe because they have been lied to.

For a start, let’s address the calendar issue:

Practical use of A.D., on papers like charters or church documents, began to catch on in eighth and ninth century England, and from there expanded to France and Italy by the late ninth century. But, even as it grew, people continued to use other systems like the Roman calendar. This change was enforced with violence throughout the world.

So what about “B.C’?

Starting with the alleged birth of christ as a single defining moment—rather than using a succession of rulers one after another, or trying to count from the very beginning of creation…leads inevitably to the fact that lots of stuff happened before. But,B.C. was much harder to implement. Terms referring to this “before” varied all the way through the 18th century.

Secondly, no tomb for Jesus has EVER been identified or confirmed! That’s just one of many falsehoods preachers inflict upon their followers, and they do it loudly, to intimidate, with the false premise that might is right.

I constantly hear preachers and Christian followers proclaim that the “tomb is empty” but there is no truth to it and zero data to validate it.

This person was also unaware that the numerical system we all use across the entire planet is of Arabic origin.

She then went on to suggest that there was a miracle with a stomach condition of hers that was inexplicably healed when, according to her, doctors couldn’t heal. For one thing, sometimes doctors diagnose conditions incorrectly and of course, she somehow cannot provide any evidence such as doctor’s notes, test results and charts to demonstrate as evidence. And rather than accept the logic that there may have been a misdiagnosis, they choose to embrace the false sense of comfort of “god did it”… yet, many babies die in hospitals minutes or hours after they’re born in spite of desperate prayers.

What I am noticing here is that religious people are conned into believing in god by means of falsehoods and misrepresentations of facts because they don’t know much about anything.

It is easy to realize that religious leaders are able to fool the poorly educated, which reminds me of that primitive tribe in the South Pacific where they know nothing of biology and allow their young boys to be sodomized by the tribe’s chief because they believe that it’s how boys will produce sperm when they grow to be men.

Christians reject the scientific discoveries that prove biological evolution, a spherical planet, a much older Earth, and so many other science facts that the church used to execute people for stating as facts.

The fact remains that everyone who argues against evolution is not properly educated in the matter and definitely lacks the credentials to even formulate a valid argument.

It is absolutely mind boggling how arrogant and ignorant they are, pretending they know more than biologists, scientists and university professors with doctorate degrees and peer reviewed papers that confirm their findings as facts.

For sure, science does not know everything but it can provide evidence for everything it knows… whereas religion knows nothing.

Damien Lee Thorr
3-29-2022